. When confusion arose after the episode's release, the podcast responded through Facebook saying "That is what we have heard from our sources.". By 4 p.m., it was like, 'oh man,''said Patty. " Family members of Liberty German and Abigail Williams listen as Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter announces the arrest of Richard Allen for the girls' 2017 murder Oct. 31, 2022. Murder Victim Delphi, Carroll County, Indiana February 13, 2017. The police keep saying they're close to solving the case, is that true or is that a bad sign that they're far from it? This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, Rockefeller Audio 2022. And it is easy it is to photograph a fake screenshot displayed on a phone. The other elements were are not sure they agreed on are: a giant plush toy animal, possibly a bear; a crucifix hung upside down; dolls hanging in trees; and a knife plunged into a log with one of the girls hands wrapped around it to make it appear she had stabbed the tree. At the bottom of the hill they would have had to cross a private driveway and then moving further north they would have reached Deer Creek. The suspect, who appears to have no prior criminal record, moved to Delphi from Mexico, Indiana in 2006, and purchased the home he still lives in, which isn't far from where the girls' bodies were found. He said, 'did you happen to see two girls up there?' ", "That's what we're curious about," said ine. This includes the shocking revelation that the girls' killer may have staged the murder scene and that Libby had been in communication with alleged serial Snapchat catfish Kegan Kline before she died. Haven't heard of rumored nasa pics. And somebody yelled up that they had found a shoe. When I first heard these rumors from the podcaster, we were both laughing over the phone because it was so ridiculous and insane. Here is the link if interested, http://www.wpta21.com/story/35903873/witness-aided-in-sketch-of-suspect-in-indiana-teens-deaths?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_ABC21_WPTA. . Though most have no idea of who Mr X is, it looks like you just said it in the replies. [9], The Monon High Bridge Trail is 1.44 mile long trail. Witness names, as well as the name of a Delphi detective were kept redacted. Hes not even a pedophile. Found Deceased IN - Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #162. If the referred to "High Bridge trail head" is the location near the trail intersections or the location near the trail intersection is unknown. Journal and Courier article 1.2 M to Restore Monon High Bridge, 10. To get more specific, onFebruary 22, 2017 Indiana State Police Sgt. We age regressed his photo to age 17, which he would have been at the time of the crime, and its a perfect match. The person will describe the suspect based on those categories. They were chatting at a party recently, and the friend asked the investigator about the dolls rumor, specifically asking if there was one doll or more than one doll at the crime scene. . There is a small fee of $20 to join, which includes lifetime membership. Law enforcement has recovered DNA from the crime scene. There were definitely dolls at the site that day. WDRB article Families of teens, 20. So the building was still standing but was not in use during the day of the crime February 13, 2017. I even walked all the way across the bridge and back. and our However, his middle name is different. The witness left, but reportedly told her husband about the strange . All rights reserved. I also believe that Abby and Libby were killed somewhere else. Hi Robert have donated to become a member of the Delphi group! And when they had found the shoe they had asked what kind of shoes the girls were wearing. And for that, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. I hate to be one of those people, but I'm not sure this "witness" exists. In addition to the two search party members reports, we also have a statement from an LE source close to the investigation that dolls were scattered all over the crime scene, and both girls were posed and sexually violated. I am quite happy to ban you here today. Interviewer: Is the attack itself on the recording? Richard Allen, Delphi Murder Suspect, Was a Witness in the Case - How Did This Manipulate the Investigation & Will There Be Other Arrests? Kun napsautat Hyvksy kaikki, hyvksyt sen, ett Yahoo ja kumppanimme ksittelevt henkiltietojasi ja nyttvt evsteiden kaltaisten tekniikoiden avulla sinulle rtlity mainontaa ja sislt sek hydyntvt nit tekniikoita mainosten ja sislln mittaamisessa, kohderyhmtiedoissa ja tuotekehityksess. The Indiana detectives investigating the 2017 Delphi murders claimed on Thursday to have new leads in the case and warned their suspect that they know who he is - but are yet to make any arrests . The next day, two bodies were found in an area along Deer Creek, east of the bridge. It said, We have a secret and the photo shows both of them holding up their hands in secret signs. It prohibited the attorneys, LE, Court staff, coroner, and family, from commenting publicly or to media, including on social media platforms. The police asked the publics help to identify a vehicle that was seen parked near the Monon High Bridge the day Abby and Libby Killed. Photo from the perspective of the railroad bridge, view from the west facing east. . The sketch released on Monday was drawn by Bryant on Feb. 17, 2017, a few days after the victims' bodies were found. Yes, the detective is great! It looks like he got it all wrong. The families of the victims have spoken about a man that Derrick ran into when he arrived at the trail at roughly 3:14pm. In what is the finest coup for our group of ~230 paid members, a retired homicide detective from Washington DC joined our group as a paid member! Did he work alone as a solo killer? And spent a significant amount of time looking for the man in this sketch, and as you said Jim, that man it turned out recently was arrested and was a sex offender. building torn down. WATCH THE DELPHI MURDERS ON FOX NATION. An interesting new theory has come up. This young lady is a hero, theres no doubt, t, activate that video system on her cellphone. But what exactly is known about the man charged with the 2017 m 0. I have a theory that the crime scene was already set up before the girls were placed there. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. It could be literally anything. "While sometimes it's been painful, I am grateful for you all.". Then he said, There was at least one doll at the crime scene.. Comment * document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a81b3493f6a12e73f3f44f64949534d4" );document.getElementById("b83dbe3da2").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. A sheriffs deputy in a nearby town who stated: One of the girls was in the early stages of pregnancy. This would have been found on autopsy, and a statement like that usually means 6-8 weeks pregnant. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. VITAL WITNESS. PLENTY more shocking twists and turns should be expected in the months ahead as the Delphi murders investigation remains active and ongoing, according to a duo of prolific true crime podcasters. Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, is facing two counts of murder. These poor girls lost their lives horrifically, why wouldn't you come forward right away. Family members of Liberty German and Abigail Williams listen as Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter announces the arrest of Richard Allen for the girls' 2017 murder Oct. 31, 2022. It turns out that all of the other witness accounts of seeing BG the 16 year old girl, the arguing man of the couple under the bridge (Daniel Pearson), and possibly Dan McCain saw BG with the white scarf obscuring his face as can be seen in the BG video. Source: April 22 2019 Press Conference, Timestamp5:48, [Note: originally it was said to be on February 14 2017, but it was later corrected by law enforcement to February 13th.]. Stands for Kegan Dunker my poi. Its very nice to ban you here today at my site! The offender approached them from the north western side moving south east towards them. So we have four sources for the dolls story, two from LE and two from search party members. The second woman largely corroborated much if not all of the first womans report. We consider some stuff confirmed as in reports from police, official documents, and search party members. It was initially believed the sketch that has been in public view over the last two years of a person in the age range of his 40s to 50s was a person of interest in this murder investigation. I'm beyond annoyed, I'm surprised you can't see my eyes rolling through the computer. her. Are these guys even humans? Allow me to explain. There was also a 19 year old man who lived on the street who was said to be talking to Libby, so that might be the tie-in you are thinking of. The Monon High Bridge being rebuilt in 1915. The previous sketch was a composite sketch and was "an artist's composite of the information" collected by all the agencies involved in the double-murder investigation, including the FBI, said Indiana State Police Sgt. d) The arguing couple boyfriend said he saw a guy who matched video description - again where did the boyfriend see this guy? At every crime scene, you are going to have DNA. If there are several witnesses, Bryant would draw a sketch for each description. DELPHI, Ind. This section was relatively shallow and during certain seasons it acts as a sandbar. Hes used to being part of teams with differing opinions. Train crossing the Monon High Bridge. [8] At the time of the homicides, the bridge was still owned by CSX but was unofficially used by the community as a public trail. "They were a good family couple," Matlock said. WLFI article Community continues to search for missing teens, 8. Their bodies were found the following day in a wooded area a short distance from the Monon High Bridge Trail. If Mr. X did that, we think that was a pretty lousy thing to do to his stepson. The clip is a male voice saying Down the hill. [12]. This is all very confused. ", full press conference can be found on YouTube, Tippecanoe-ISP February 15, 2017 13:49 file, Tippecanoe-ISP February 15, 2017 13:19 file, April 22 2019 Press Conference, Timestamp5:48, Video of Indiana State Police Press conference, Community continues to search for missing teens, Live from CrimeCon: Little Abby & Libby's families, Abigail Williams & Liberty German: 5 Fast Facts You Need toKnow. I'm wondering if they're afraid that trying to explain the generation of the sketch would make the community less confident so it's easiest to attribute it to a sudden appearance of a witness. Now, in an interview with The U.S. Sun, ine and Kevin admitted that even they were "caught off guard" by the arrest of Richard Allen last week, who has now been charged with both of the girls' murders. . We recently obtained a photo of Stepson X. We say this because he has the same first and last name as Mr. X. The sketch released on April 22ndis representative of the face of the person captured in the video on Liberty Germans cell phone as he was walking on the high bridge. None of the witnesses reported seeing that individual with anyone else in the information released so far. "If somebody knows something, they need to tell us. They were murdered in a very short window of time between 2:07 pm (when Libby posted a picture of Abby to Snapchat) and 3 pm (when other witnesses were in the area but heard no sounds). The person in the sketch released April 22nd is described as having a youthful appearance, but could fall in the age range from his 20s to late 30s. And so the other sketch was somebody saw, in the area, and was suspicious about. yesterday, I think it's really interesting that the police guy who's talking accidentally uses the pronoun 'she' when referring to the witness, three times. Also, a slow cut even with a big knife would not have drenched BG in blood. Undated. The suspect, who has no criminal record, worked as a pharmacy technician at the local CVS in Delphi a town that numbers about 3,000 people. Where was fsg such that he could see the arguing couple? Indiana State Police also want to talk to anyone who was parked at. Suspect allegedly linked to Delphi murders reportedly in custody. Your POI and my POI are the same person and I honestly didnt know half of what you have listed here! Cheyenne) Further complicating this matter is the existence of two sketches of two entirely different people. And they yelled out the type of shoe that Libby was wearing. We dont know what his original first name was, but his original last name was not the same as Mr. Xs. There is a $250,000 reward for any information that leads to an arrest in the case. DELPHI, Ind. He said there were so many dolls that it looked like he had gone to the Goodwill and bought up a bunch of dolls. Hopefully we can talk about some of the things that Ive come up with. A female witness "C" chose to publicly comment on a Facebook post written by a family member of the victim discussing how she was on the trail that day shortly after the girls. Anyone with information about this case is encouraged to send tips to this email address:abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. It almost seems you could knock them up just by brushing up agains them. Turns out it's a guy whose sexually interested in children, who's had multiple arrests for it right? This quote, which was mentioned earlier, references a set of footprints leading up the the bodies when the bodies were found for the first time by volunteers. Even after the arrest of a suspect on Oct. 26, police have declined to answer most questions about the case, saying they don't want to jeopardize the prosecution. He said the notion of two killers is still in the arena. He also said, This has been an active theory since the first day of the crime.. But this also why the Old BG sketch is no good. Information sent by email is kept confidential and is only shared with investigators. "I think the media is can be a very good partner in cases like this to keep things moving along," where investigations may have otherwise stalled," she added. "Thats what I guess was the biggest shock.". Monon High Bridge as seen from the south side of the Dreek Creek. . Something's fishy I think. The stepson is a 21 year old man who just graduated from high school and lives with Mr. X and his wife, Mrs. X. I just wanted to say that I really appreciate you inviting me to the group. I didnt see the girls at all. Whether the released video and the released audio coincide in time is unknown but seems unlikely. The previously released sketch. But they were both definitely on board via the sexual posing of the girls, the dolls on the ground, and the sheet with the smiley face on it at the very least. Nor do we have any evidence that the stepson was at the crime scene that day or participated in the crime in any way. Authorities announced Monday the arrest of Richard Allen, center, for the murders of Libby German, left, and her best friend, Abby Williams, in Feb. 2017. When was this? Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. An ejected .40-caliber shell found . Their bloodied bodies were found in a wooded area less than half a mile from the bridge. Only took the trail that lead to the bridge. [18] C wrote on Facebook: I even walked all the way across the bridge and back. Yes, a gun was used in the crime. We also believe that this person is from Delphi currently or has previously lived here, visits delphi at a regular basis or works here. I am also curious about the origin of the sketch. Everything We Know About The Unsolved Delphi Murders. This persons appearance could look different today if he has grown a mustache, beard or let his hair grow longer or cut his hair shorter than depicted in the sketch. [6] The bridge was a common backdrop for photo shoots like senior pictures and wedding photos. And they have found someone who looks at that video that they released and says yes I definitely saw that guy minutes before the girls came by and I saw his face and that's where this sketch came from. The report of the girls head being only attached by an inch of skin implies a single huge blow with a hatchet because this is the sort of wound a hatchet, not a knife, would have caused. [13]. The search yielded evidence that led to his arrest. Was the secret that one of them had found out she was pregnant? Is this all true? After searching, All rights reserved. Maybe he encountered the killer on his property and either knew or didn't knkw him and was scared to come forward cause he made threats or he knewhes get in trouble for drinking and maybe was so drunk he wasn't sure if it happened. This "new" sketch was actually created earlier then the "old" sketch according to an Indy Star article,which writes: Master Trooper Taylor Bryant, a sketch artist with Indiana State Police who drew the new sketch, told IndyStar a sketch is based on how a particular witness describes the suspect. On Oct. 28, 2022, police confirmed Richard Allen was being held in connection to the killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. Liberty "Libby" German, 14 years old, and 13-year-old Abigail "Abby" Williams were both perfectly normal and sweet teenage girls. I only (saw) a guy when I first got there and another couple once I got on the bridge. Later I found that this same search party member had contacted two team members, and in addition, the second woman contacted one of the same team members. Whether law enforcement is sure the DNA they have is the definitively the offender's is unknown. Abby and Libby failed to show up to the meeting spot to picked up. Remember the social media photo Abby and Libby posted the night before the murders? Most recently, Chris Lambert, the creator and host of the Your Own Backyard podcast, was credited with playing an instrumental role in bringing Paul Flores to justice for the murder of Kristin Smart, a student who vanished without a trace in 1996. Thread starter Tricia; Start date Apr 22, 2019; The Chief of Police in Delphi, Indiana (Brook L. McCain) received a telephone call regarding the murder case of child victims Abigail Williams and . [5]. The leak is from a very high-ranking person on that team. -, Press J to jump to the feed. According to public records, the CPS/DCS building referenced is: Carroll County Office of Family and Children, 6931 West 300 North,Delphi,IN46923-9134 [17]. I also didnt take the trail that leads to the right. Why not just say "dark eyes, probably brown or green?". They reference you on Reddit all the time. [7]. Delphi murders investigation timeline:Review the case through 5 years of reporting. Obviously none of this happened, but BG may have wanted to stage it to look like a murder-suicide as of a sick joke. c) Where was fsg while BG was on the bridge with Abby and Libby? The Indiana State Police hold another press conference in April 2019. If so, how did she find out? DELPHI MURDERS: WITNESS TIMELINE (MINDSHOCK TRUE CRIME PODCAST)Examining the witnesses around the Monon High Bridge and the trail. "What will be the evidence against him? Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby is clearing up some misconceptions about the Delphi double homicide case released by other media outlets on Friday. "So when we check the phone records, the police call was about 5:20, -Becky Patty,Timestamp 29:00, Interview with Mike And Becky Patty by Gray Hughes, 7. J. Kyle Keener, aphotographer working for the newspaper Pharos Tribune took some of the highest quality photos of the investigation during February 14, 2017. So now we have testimony from three excellent sources two independent search party members and an LE source close to the investigation. On another thread on the sub for the case someone said one of the girls uncles or something is dating this guy JDD's (who really resembles him) sister so maybe he would know the girl. We dont know how hes acting in relation to all of this stuff. That Mr. X will be arrested so soon? Kevin added: "I think we expect more twists and turns and more unexpected developments. "I can't tell you eye color, but I can say they're not blue!" I mean what if he approached the car after she dropped the girls off and she knew who he was and was polite and replied but didn't want to think it was him. Anna on the podcast Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Episode: Live from CrimeCon: Little Abby & Libby's familiesTimestamp 14:25, 18. I can give you instructions here if you like. Allen, who has entered . You need a huge knife to saw someones head off almost a sword you can watch any of the beheading videos out there to be sure. On February 22, 2011 police released an audio recording where the man is heard saying Guys Down the hill The recording is credited to Libby, who secretly recorded the suspect. ABC 21 reports that an anonymous donor gave $100,00 for the reward fund to help catch the person who killed two young girls over three years ago. Do you feel that way as well? Today, a new sketch of the suspect, appearing to be in his mid-twenties to mid-thirties. At the moment, there is no evidence whatsoever that this young man assisted Mr. X in his crime. German's grandmother, Becky Patty, told FOX 59 that Allen was the CVS worker who processed her granddaughter's photos for her funeral. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have determined the main suspects in the case, have a good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like, and have recently figured out the motive. In this video taped interview, Holeman says: On February 23, 2017Sheriff Leazenby gives an interview and based on this interview some media outlets wrote articles such asthe one written by CBS-4 Indianastating: The following day,February 24, 2017, Sheriff Leazenby speaks to the press again to clarify his earlier statements. Bullet found near 2 teen girls' bodies came from suspect and witness saw man wearing "muddy and bloody" clothes, affidavit says November 30, 2022 / 6:15 AM / CBS/AP Arrest made in murders of 2 girls Perhaps he was, and that would be an interesting theory. However, I just heard via DDcups, a man from Australia, and an excellent poster on the Reddit Delphi subs, that he contacted someone who knew a Delphi police officer, and this person told him his police friend had stated that dolls were scattered around the crime scene. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Delphi, Indiana - In the early days and months of the Delphi Murder investigation information was developed about suspect descriptions. Privacy Policy. If it is an eyewitness account we may have the next "Unibomber" situation where it is not a match at all. Hello Mr Lindsay, I think that I finally found you lol, you invited me to join your group. Investigators announce they are taking a new direction in the case. Tweet by an ABC-7 news reporter showing where crime scene tape was located. At the moment, we have no idea that the boy in the catfish photo is the same young man who was seen at the bridge that day. or more realistically, these witnesses are scared that this murderer would come after them too. He was a regular at JC's Bar and Grill, which has since been shuttered, where he liked to play pool, according to the Indy Star. The Indy Channel article Delphi Daughters, 11. First, a pitch for supporting this website and our private sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. 2020 THE SUN, US, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY | YOUR AD CHOICES | SITEMAP, Libby German (left) and Abby Williams (right) were found dead in February 2017, Arrested for the two girls' murders last week was 50-year-old Delphi local Richard Allen, Journalist ine Cain and attorney Kevin Greenlee, of The Murder Sheet podcast, expect plenty more twists in the coming weeks and months, Richard Allen is pictured with his wife with a sketch of the Delphi suspect visible in the background, One of the two composite sketches of the possible suspect released by law enforcement is seen above, The only known footage of the suspect was captured by Libby German on her phone, Richard Allen has no known criminal past and is a married pharmacy technician who worked at a local CVS, One of the final images captured by Libby German showed Abby walking along the Monon High Bridge Trial where the girls would ultimately meet their killer, Richard Allen has pleaded not guilty to two counts of murder, Libby and Abby's manners of death have never been disclosed by the police, Delphi murders podcasters predict more bombshell twists in case after killer Richard Allens shocking arrest, Shock pics of Serena Williams' crumbling childhood home revealed as King Richards' legal battle over ownership rages on, Julie Powell shared disturbing tweets about health & 'black hairy tongue' a day before tragic cardiac arrest death at 49, Princess Diana was box office when she was alive - so if you dont like The Crown, dont watch, Heartbreaking new picture of American students killed in Seoul Halloween stampede taken only hours before tragic deaths, Takeoff shooting suspects hunted by Texas cops who urge witnesses to 'step up' after Migos rapper killed at party, Inside 'Killer Sally' McNeil's life after prison for Valentine's Day murder of 'abusive' husband Ray and her remarriage, Mystery deepens in disappearance of flight attendant Sarm Hislop from boyfriend's luxury boat as eerie new CCTV emerges, We spent years trying to find our real father only to discover the chilling truth from our mums doctor. The crime was absolutely videotaped and photographed. We assume that is true because there is a rumor to that effect and also the FBI search warrant we have says they are looking for photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, film, etc. On July 17, 2011 the police released a composite sketch of their suspect in the Delphi murders. There are a number of childrens graves there, and there were dolls scattered around some of those graves. So I yelled down and told them that. As he looked up to see what it was, that is when he saw them, said Libbys grandma, Becky Patty. I constantly see your name pop up there. Let me put it this way, and I do respect your work Robert even if we have different POI. Nevertheless, more and more evidence continues to pile up that this rumor is actually true. The rumor that dolls were scattered around the crime scene seems patently ridiculous. An Indiana man accused of killing two teenage girls in the infamous Delphi murder case was linked to the crime through an unspent bullet found at the scene, newly revealed documents show. First of all, it bears no good resemblance to Mr. X, the main suspect in the crime. Perhaps they know who it is but need him to slip up and someone is knowingly or unknowingly giving him his alibi. Best of all, much of our information is via solid sources such as search party members, official case documents, and LE sources close to the investigation. Mr, Robert Lindsay, I am really starting to believe that you and your research team might hold the key to solving this heinous crime. The Indy Channel article Delphi Timeline, 13. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. In the newly unsealed affidavit, multiple witnesses reported seeing a man - who one described as "creepy" - matching Allen's description on the bridge on the afternoon of Feb. 13, 2017. We simply think that he ought to be investigated for possible involvement in the crime, unwitting or not. But what we found out recently was he is apparently not the killer. Its believed that the killer may be from or has lived in the city of Delphi. The Witnesses - Let's get the story straight. Footprints can casted and molded by forensic teams. It is on the other side of Deer Creek that the bodies are found. Turns out the brother of a team member is best friends with this high-ranking person. Police won't release anymore to protect the integrity of the investigation, but they've seen the video and likely won't be able to stop thinking about it. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. An article from WTHR says audio from Libby German's cell phone was played for the victims' families, including a mention of a man they noticed behind them. We also have zero evidence that BG used his stepsons photo to catfish Libby.
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