Among other things, Carroll . He cant even drive a car! It is on the girls cellphones, but if you listen to it, you will just hear a bunch of unintelligible garble. By that I mean that he probably has offended many times but being transient affords one the luxury of not getting caught. ago. We wish people would stop talking about fingerprints. You do a great job! He was searching for the girls. Some insist that this is merely a coincidence, but apparently LE do not think it is coincidental. Fondled similarly to Libby. So, to end my novel, I agree with you. Is that also speculation? When we line the two theories against each other, ours wins hands down. Pay minimum of $20 for lifetime membership to our group. Fascinating episodes - Ive listened twice and got back through the old Delphi episodes too! Another document we have is another search warrant, this time for the Maxwell property. 4-lane highway. Employed at two factories in nearby towns as a machine operator in recent years. At least three women have told News 8 that they received disturbing messages from either the anthony_shots profile or the personal account of Kegan Kline. I will. Well, guess what? How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? If any of you want to sift through there and find some interesting stuff and post it here, please feel free to go for it. We sent him off to dig into Mr. X. We reported them one year before it came out in the media that they were all true. Yes. You can tell by many things gait, body shape, manner of walking, voice, etc. I dont get internet drama but everyone seems to have stronger reactions both for and against when dp gets brought up than anyone else. They just accept everyone as long as you say youre straight. Highly suspicious and the states that are responsible are more interested in getting into pissing contests as opposed to finding her. I am sure he was asked. It doesnt seem reasonable to stay out there all that time for no good reason. We believe he just told LE she was coming, it went out over the scanner, and she never showed up. No-Reason-1185 1 yr. ago. I dont know if its in a garage, or the shed, perhaps? Thats technically true but in all my years of playing the part of a PIO and putting out press releases, Ive never intentionally told a lie. Henceforth, he will be known as LE Source A. He has connections with current LE officers. That person is probably some local creep getting revenge since those girls parents were into the same bullchit. 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He doesnt want to get uncovered revealing official case documents to the media. - Stunning new documents describe the scene where two young girls were murdered in Delphi, Indiana, five years ago. The fact that the mere mention of FSG as anything more than a helpful old man out for a daily stroll is met with such hostility well, that raises all sorts of red flags with me even if the vitriol is coming from true crime enthusiasts on Reddit. Fascinating episodes - Ive listened twice and got back through the old Delphi episodes too! FSG didnt recognize him either, and Im sure that FSG and Mr. X knew each other. But we know that binoculars were used in this crime because we have search warrants and binoculars are one of the things that are listed on the search warrants. Tonight I will welcome my special guest Skip Jansen as we discuss current events going on in the Delphi case. Can you spell out the name? Empiricism is a thing. The rejoinders also say that either he never lost his keys or he did and he called the wife to bring a spare, and she did, evidence being the police scanner. Feel free to post about any unsolved case you think is interesting, high profile preferred. And he never meets anyone for any reason. The. DELPHI, Ind. If the person later ends up pleading/found guilty to misdemeanors and no felony convictions occur out of that arrest, the person can request their sample be expunged from the database after 1 year, so long as no other charges are filed (in which case the chance to test DNA is lost). Also theres only one way for LE to know that BG filmed his crime if the rumors about sending video of the crime to the girls phones afterwards is true. Anyhow on YT one of the titles says former cheerleader. Not that thats necessarily relevant to the case, just that one of your pics above makes more sense now lol. He is one of the first and only witnesses in this case!!. Some people are very insistent that Ron Logan is the killer. He is also in IT, which I'd have a guess that he didn't take his mobile phone with him to the bridge. Its a farce! The idea that a gag order was issued on this truck is an unconfirmed rumor. I dont know if he actually used the binoculars to spot them. I believe that the reason LE has been so tight-lipped is because they know that the killer is following the case very closely. It is being said that we are claiming all sorts of odd things about this crime, what happened, and the crime scene. They go up to the knee and are designed to be waterproof. Indiana authorities have released an affidavit that led to a 50-year-old married man being charged last month in connection with the 2017 Delphi murders, more than five years on from the double. Cookie Notice Also to True Crime Garage. Feb. 13, 2017 Abby and Libby are dropped off at the Monon High Bridge Trail and are not there when family comes to pick them up. Logistical occupations, Construction workers etc who travel have free reign. when you send someone a file, you retain a copy for yourself. So Mr. X was more traumatized by this crime than anyone else, including the victims grandmother who was hurt more than anyone. Please help me out here. There is evidence that may have worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport in 2011-2012. Highly functioning drunk; its the only way he can appear normal. So that means he killed these girls because theyre chicks too! Doesnt sound like a logical progression of thought to me. I will. Will be posted by Saturday, March 11th. Maybe on a dark spiritual level, yes, but I think the Delphi killer has nothing to do with the other murders now. I think that the killer was very familiar with someone in the family somewhere. ( WXIN) A 2017 search warrant in connection with the Delphi, Indiana killings of Abby Williams and Libby German has been shared with the public. But miranda rights are only for custodial interrogations, and I don't believe DP was ever in custody. The residents of Big Pine Key, Little Torch Key, and No Name Key were frightened and rightfully so. Ill leave it at that. Hey, its a capitalist country, right? Temp banned. Your email address will not be published. The sketch of the younger man is the catfish of the 19 year old boy used to lure in Libby from Snapchat. (WISH) Investigators believe the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German were "moved and staged" at the Delphi murder scene, according to court documents obtained by I-Team 8. So, DP could be deposed. He uses all kinds of weird aliases. Can anyone remember what he would comment on or say? Recently moved to a small city nearby, possibly due to the heat of being a suspect in the crime. They even try to cure effeminate gay men and let them back in the churches as long as they say theyre cured of homosexuality. This source close to the retired detective will be referred to as an LE source close to the investigation. Makes no sense at all. One reason this particular homicide case came to national attention is the haunting cell phone and social-media clues the girls left behind. A man being eyed in the unsolved 2017 murders of two teens in Delphi, Indiana, has an "evil streak" and is "absolutely capable" of committing that type of crime, his brother said. Items known to be carried or worn by BG at the time of crime: Loaded handgun in right jacket pocket, type unknown, possibly a rare .40mm collectors item. There are some absolutely fascinating old rumors on there that I have never heard before, mostly having to do with Young BG and his possible presence or involvement at the crime scene. If you cant handle such material, dont read! If one of the girls was pregnant, was the pregnancy a result of intercourse with Mr X? All I ask is that you say that our suspect is named Mr. X, and we absolutely refuse to identify this man. The reason why I didnt send the letter was because I was moving across country and strongly felt as though law enforcement would not take my views seriously. The rumor that there was a spent cartridge at the scene is therefore confirmed. Id be surprised if he were in on this, but stranger things have happened. They dont say where they collected it from, but thats an important question. You want me to put it up? Only if he had sent this much audio to one of the girls phones after the crime. Those aspects of the crime are the following: We feel that these facts are validated because in 1-3, they were seen by us in the crime scene photos and also by a female search party member at the scene, in 4, they were seen by two separate female search party members who had never talked to each other, and in 5, it was verified by a conversation with the girls guardian herself backed up by a postmortem photo. Friends with Ron Logan on whose property the crime occurred. Maybe. Interestingly, I had NO idea who you were (sorry). Its an understandable reaction, but theyre not pleasant to be around. The motive was sexual. We may or may not have from 1-8 more official case documents from this case. Mike Patty: Just stop, ok? Instead, people attacked /u/SkipJanson about going to Delphi when so many others like BitterBeatPoet were glorified for doing so and posted all over without issue. It is important to note that you are under no obligation to tell the police anything. And when they said BG was actually better described as a combination of both sketches, they were correct too. We believe him. We suppose if was listening to a police scanner, he could have known that early, but whats the likelihood of Mr. X listening to a police scanner between 5:30-6:30 PM on the day of the crime? Do you believe your POI acted alone to abduct and eventually kill the girls? cherrygemgem 1 yr. ago. @Skip A family member was on their w They want to keep him in the dark. Indiana State Police annou Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby said investigators have received about 500 calls since the information on the fake anthony_shots profile was released last week by Indiana State Police. I dont know what these names mean. We believe Mr. X stayed with the truck all that time in order to watch it. I found who mr. X is. AP The trial for the suspect accused of murdering two girls in Delphi,. Who are you friends with. https://beyondhighbrow.com/2019/09/20/support-beyond-highbrow/. Because that is a deer kit around his waist. DELPHI, Ind. White scarf covering the lower half of his face. Ok he has committed some sort of sex crimes or other or weird crimes like peeping and whatnot. Old style 501 blue jeans from the 1980s Dad jeans. And a few hours ago, fake DP posted that exact same article. Anyway, LE believes that Bridge Guy is Mr. X. Theyre not looking at anyone else. Theyve had video and audio of the guy from the beginning and its been too long without an arrest. How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? Could someone DM me who DP is? Dont pay any attention to that.. Thank you so much! We would say it is low. What do people think he was saying that "fooled" police? The Reddit sites are pretty useless too, mostly because most posters regard the best sources on this crime as false. These two men, driving in the younger mans black truck with pink stripe, were witnessed in the vicinity on or near the cemetery road at approximately 5:30 AM February 14, 2017. Not quite sainthood, but getting there. There is a lot of controversy about that but it does appear that you can hear on the audio, Is that creepy guy still following us?. The behavior of LE throughout the entirety of this case is, to put it as nicely as possible, questionable, and to state the truth, just plain stupid. I know many others will agree that Skip has helped connect a lot of dots for many of us; his comments are always thought provoking and insightful. Im not saying anymore in an attempt to protect LEs directive. So Skip Jansen and DGo are different people that just happen to share the same "suspect" and theories? Published: Feb. 8, 2022 at 3:28 PM PST. 8) He drives an older model Ford Ranger type of truck. Indiana Packers workboots go up to knee-high, and they are waterproof. Some of this confusion is probably natural, since the the whole B family has gone underground. Did he sleep? Thing is, over time your information tends to get better. and that you think he already knew that they would be there.. This seems to be one of the motives for the homicide. Kline was not arrested until more than three years later. He ran off for s copy for us and sent it to us in the mail. The doc is his property. Same spelling as well. However, smudged prints are of very dubious value. 2/13, 2:13, 2-13. Well, hes the right age anyway. It is high time this comes to fruition. Jersey dude felt so slighted that the Reddit world didn't stop what they were doing to acknowledge Skip's strange trip that he felt he needed to make a post himself to berate those who didn't offer to pay for Skip's gas. Familiarity with crime location: Extreme. BTW whats up with all the psychic stuff? Furthermore, almost nothing of consequence is being said, and it reminds you of a night with your friends drinking, and no one says one thing of importance for hours. That poor town has been though enough. Thank You KristinTIP HOTLINE: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or (765) 822-3535.John Kelly Profiler https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP38Hoosier Cold Cases: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk39wljKoWmUyzw1fNKp7hQReal Chill Graz: https://www.youtube.com/c/NickGrazianounroyal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04o2gkur_X4Down the Hill podcast https://www.downthehillpodcast.com/Gray Hughes https://www.youtube.com/user/grayhuzeScene of the Crime https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast#delphi #AbbyandLibby #TheDelphimurders #bridgeguy #Truecrime #murder #missing #Indiana #unsolved #justiceforabbyandlibbyFOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES - NO MONETIZATION - Fair Use: LET ME BE VERY CLEAR This content on my channel may contain copyrighted content not authorized for use by the owner. Also, you develop better sources. I don't think it was directly addressed in the episodes, but are you able to speculate on what degree of premeditation (if any) would your theory would have required on the part of your suspect? Turned out he was just some troll who wanted people to think he committed these murders instead of being the person who actually did them. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 2 /// 510 Part 2 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. He only discusses facts. Have for a long time. . Expunged just means taken out of public records. BG was dressed in clothes similar to what Ron wore, and he took the girls to Rons land and killed them there. Theres something different about this casing, it stood out to me. I could be completely off base and change my mind tomorrow. Hence, formally, everything Leaker said has gone into unconfirmed rumors other than the things we were able to confirm from other probative sources. We also have at least one other search warrant for another home. Let us know if you want to join the private sleuthing site where we can talk about this stuff in much greater detail than we do out here. His phone records could be subpoenaed. This has helped me a lot. Is there any way on Earth that BG could look like the young man in that sketch or even an 18-40 year old? "You want to know what we know one day you will.". I believe Mr. X is the guy. We park right at the front door. Comment * document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "abf47b18ef039f49c8ff02321419d1b6" );document.getElementById("b83dbe3da2").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. LE themselves have admitted that they have one smudged fingerprint. This whole case just reeks of something stinky every which way you turn. Its at his home on a shelf! Im sure his wife Mrs. X knows or suspects what he has done but she wont roll overKeep up the great work and hopefully they get this SOB! He stayed to guard his truck. She was emphatic about that. Its buried under settlement and underbrush. We now have a better time frame for Mr. Xs truck being parked at the cemetery. Instead of bashing us, why dont you ask why the cops are telling us this stuff? The bodies were dumped near flowing water, creeks or rivers. What I should have asked is just what if anything has Ron Logan said about the photo and left out if the guy on the bridge (BG) was a friend of Ron Logans because obviously if he was a friend we would now know who BG is. About eight days after the murders, this man shoots and kills his 16 year old live-in girlfriend while allegedly cleaning his firearm. These are the only claims that people can hold us to because with all the rest, we openly admit that the claims are Unverified, so we should not be held to any of those claims. Dime a dozen. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. They have most recently stated that they want to avoid double jeopardy. BG must have fired his gun at some point in this crime. Then the girl he left on the trails comes to find him below the bridge around 3pm and she argues with him for not coming back quickly (he was delayed killing the girls and FSG hears them arguing at 3pm). true crime garage stitcher true crime garage stitcher. If you have saved images or conversations with the anthony_shots profile, please attach them to your email, the release said. Isnt that logical. A police chief in Martinez accused the man of committing these crimes, and the man sued the city and won $50,000. I found your article very interesting and thought provoking. Urinating is no problem, but what if he had to defecate? Truth is an absolute defense. John Kelly has some good information. Earlier today, fake DP posted those same newspaper articles and said "someone" sent them to him. All the while suspect has a conflated alibi from the girls he was with not knowing what he did when he was alone without him. Its not clear how? Which one is responsible for the fake DP facebook account? You are promoting mob mentality here - after all not everyone youve named can be BG. We have no idea why the order was issued. Im a retired homicide detective I know what Im talking about. I guess I also wonder how everyone put such and effort to look only a few hours after being missing. The second sketch looks uncannily like DP. 14) For more, see video, though this is the gist of it. So I held off. Active litigation means that discovery is available. Hence, following Occams, our theory is the best explanation of the facts. They are within the video. We are joined in the Garage by Skip Jansen to discuss a new suspect and a theory that is . Girls in the pedohebephilic age range (8-14 years old) were brazenly abducted two at once from trails in busy parks in rural Midwestern towns in the middle of daytime with many people around. Also note that LE are now acting like they think the young catfish did the crime, not the older BG. I have no idea why shes doing this, but its not because she killed her own sister. Just thought I would steel you for that thought. Within a ditch along a country road on her way home from school shortly after her murder. So yeah, if you type in Mr Xs real govt registered name into the old YT, you get a handful of cryptic videos, slideshows with creepy music typical for this sort of thing. Even if there's someone that may inadvertently turning a blind eye? Im really worried about people bothering or harming this guy and his family. Your critiques are not even making sense. If he didnt have his keys, he could not move his truck. Great to see you back on the case! He is wearing a deer kit, which contains five different types of knives. Nic comes on and says hes not on here to discuss suspects and literally does just that. $20/lifetime membership. Then email me and and I will give you the link and password and I will also let you into the new forum where you can set up your own name and password. To say these girls had things shoved in them without proof is horrible for their parents. LE actually believes BG was 49-50 years old when he committed the crime. Wow, this is some incredible news. You cannot keep your own story straight. However, this early searching meant that he could use his lost my keys excuse as a reason why his car just happened to be parked for 18 straight hours soon after the crime and right above where the girls were found because he could say the next day that he lost them during the previous evenings search. The next day, News 8 broke the story connecting Kegan Kline to the account. Now, a new person of interest in the case has finally been identified. See, Im not like how they say at all, am I? Both investigators were women. Okay, I think I have the name which I garnered from another website. not sure I agree . The crime was committed in February 13 or 2/13. Why dont you do a show on our theories. A girls hand wrapped around a knife which was plunged into a log that she was resting her head on. 1 hr. What time was RL on video eating pizza? Its burgundy. But we are not naming person. Lists a factory as place of residence. The crime scene photos have been widely trashed as paraedolia. In all four instances, people arrived at their conclusions independently of the other party. I find it interesting that you stated he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman so that audio must have been on one of the girls cell phones? Of course they would look for that. What? These are real people stop meddling and just read. You say that you dont even have a suspect, and youre waiting on that one tip to come in, but youre worried about double jeopardy? Want me to put it up anyway? But after continuing to receive these pings and after it being 5 years, I went back and decided to post as these images have since plagued me. Never knew what the case was against this man other than that he had property near the bridge, and he and his wifes alibi of being out of the state traveling got a bit mangled. @Chris Paul(Phoenix)- He took a piece of jewelry from Libby as a trophy thats also buried. Have you guys/Skip discussed or explored the theory that DP is covering for someone else - hence the inconsistencies to his story. There is a rumor of a falling out between the two men at some time before the crime. Chadwell is accused of attempted murder, kidnapping and child molesting in Lafayette. 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